Short rant on disability
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So it seems that there are some people in fandom who have issues with people with disabilities going in to gigs early and *gasp* daring to take more than one friend with them. Yes, you read that right...I said friend. Not helper, friend. Believe it or not disabled people have friends too, you know.
Do people really think that disabled people *choose* to be disabled, just so they can get into a gig a few minutes early? And nine times out of ten end up shunted to the side of the room or the back of the stalls. Because if that's really what they think, let them go ahead and try it for a while. See how great it is not to be able to get out of bed on their own, or to have to fight for breath just to walk up the stairs (because not all disabled people are wheelchair users, you know. Imagine that!). See how it makes them feel when they're told that they should be "grateful" there's a ramp to get into the venue, never mind expecting an accessible toilet as well. OMG, the wonderful privileges they're missing!
My daughter would give *anything* to be able to stand in line for a gig, and to be able to go in with everyone else. To do all the things that able-bodied people take for granted every day.
Having a disability rarely means getting the "best seats" in the house, because safety issues mean that people with disabilities (rightly) have to be seated where it's safe. K has only ever had a front row seat once in her life (at Words and Music), but that is most definitely unusual. Not to mention the fact that if you're not very quick off the mark, the wheelchair/disabled places will sell out before you even have a chance to buy a ticket.
deborahw37 posted an excellent rant on her LJ yesterday (which I agree with completely...and is a very fair one, too), so I'll just leave you with part of my comment to her:
How many able-bodied people go to a concert with friends and expect to have to sit apart from them? That happens to people with disabilities on a regular basis. I've lost count of the amount of times K and I have had to sit apart from the rest of our group because only one "helper" is allowed to sit with the disabled person. It's very difficult to interact with people on a social level when that happens, and can quite often feel like segregation. It has to happen, of course, for space and safety reasons (so this isn't a complaint about that, although there is room for improvement), but maybe those who feel so "put out" by people with disabilities being given so-called "special treatment" should go away and think about that for a while.
Sorry for the rant, but I tend to get very passionate about this subject. :)
Do people really think that disabled people *choose* to be disabled, just so they can get into a gig a few minutes early? And nine times out of ten end up shunted to the side of the room or the back of the stalls. Because if that's really what they think, let them go ahead and try it for a while. See how great it is not to be able to get out of bed on their own, or to have to fight for breath just to walk up the stairs (because not all disabled people are wheelchair users, you know. Imagine that!). See how it makes them feel when they're told that they should be "grateful" there's a ramp to get into the venue, never mind expecting an accessible toilet as well. OMG, the wonderful privileges they're missing!
My daughter would give *anything* to be able to stand in line for a gig, and to be able to go in with everyone else. To do all the things that able-bodied people take for granted every day.
Having a disability rarely means getting the "best seats" in the house, because safety issues mean that people with disabilities (rightly) have to be seated where it's safe. K has only ever had a front row seat once in her life (at Words and Music), but that is most definitely unusual. Not to mention the fact that if you're not very quick off the mark, the wheelchair/disabled places will sell out before you even have a chance to buy a ticket.
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How many able-bodied people go to a concert with friends and expect to have to sit apart from them? That happens to people with disabilities on a regular basis. I've lost count of the amount of times K and I have had to sit apart from the rest of our group because only one "helper" is allowed to sit with the disabled person. It's very difficult to interact with people on a social level when that happens, and can quite often feel like segregation. It has to happen, of course, for space and safety reasons (so this isn't a complaint about that, although there is room for improvement), but maybe those who feel so "put out" by people with disabilities being given so-called "special treatment" should go away and think about that for a while.
Sorry for the rant, but I tend to get very passionate about this subject. :)
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:17 pm (UTC)If for one moment there was any truth in it presumably all the others would dash off and have their legs amputated to gain the same advantage if he was cleared to compete.
Or maybe not.....
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Date: 2007-08-02 11:51 pm (UTC)Having a rant helps a little, though. :)
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Date: 2007-08-02 11:57 pm (UTC)I get so annoyed by some of the things I read on various boards, I just have to have a little rant about it here in my own LJ. Unfortunately, I don't think some people are ever going to change their attitudes. They don't realise how lucky they are to be able to sit with a group of friends at a gig and have a fun night out. *sigh*
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:21 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-03 12:07 am (UTC)Thank you. :)
Whenever we go to our local cinema together, the disabled spot is right at the very front, so we get neck ache by the end of the film.
My daughter hates going to the cinema for that very reason! Sitting so close also hurts her eyes, so unless it's a movie she really wants to see (like Harry Potter), she prefers to wait for it to come out on DVD.
My sister would love to have her pick of seats, instead of having to go in the designated disabled area
I know! Venues only have a certain amount of disabled places, so the choice is very limited. And you have to be very quick off the mark, otherwise the places are all gone before you even get a chance to buy a ticket!
*hugs*
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:27 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-03 12:37 am (UTC)Thanks for the comment! :)
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:27 pm (UTC){{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
Kathleen
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Date: 2007-08-03 12:41 am (UTC)*hugs back*
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Date: 2007-08-03 12:46 am (UTC)Thank you.
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:38 pm (UTC)What the hell is wrong with people? *headdesk*
Anna *hugs you and K*
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Date: 2007-08-03 12:50 am (UTC)The attitudes of some people never fail to surprise me. And sadly, I don't think they'll ever change their way of thinking. *sigh*
*hugs back*
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-03 12:51 am (UTC)*hugs back*
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Date: 2007-08-02 07:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-03 12:59 am (UTC)It's a sad state of affairs, isn't it? The amount of times people will ask *me* something instead of asking K is unbelievable. All they see is the chair or the disability and not the person. Attitudes *are* changing, but it's a very slow process. Unfortunately, I don't think the attitudes of some people will ever change. *sigh*
Thanks for the comment! :)
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Date: 2007-08-03 03:58 am (UTC)*hugs u*
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Date: 2007-08-03 06:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2007-08-03 05:01 am (UTC)We're all one tragic car accident away from needing 'special treatment' aren't we? Gads.
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Date: 2007-08-03 06:49 pm (UTC)But at the same time, you've had a lot of great commenters on the post that makes me remember that not all are lost...
And thank goodness for that! Without people like them (and you) I would lose my faith in humanity completely. :)
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Date: 2007-08-03 05:06 am (UTC)::snort::
Some people, eh?
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Date: 2007-08-03 06:56 pm (UTC)I'm just glad that there are also people like you in the world, otherwise I'd be in danger of completely losing my faith in humanity. :)
Thanks for the comment!
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Date: 2007-08-03 07:07 pm (UTC)